or the Kitchen when it was on south beach? I want to go dancing but can't find anywhere like that anymore.
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I remember the Kitchen on 21st, It was great, but times change, and even if we had places like that to dance, I don't think it will be same anymore, at least for me.
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I recently searched for info on Fire and Ice..... how can nothing exist online about this amazing place? So many happenings and life changing events came to me through this club....... does anyone have any memorabilia from there?
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I have some items from Fire & Ice, it is burried amongst a trillion boxes,some day (soon) I'll dig it up and share,I have many Fire and Ice videos of artist who performed there,flyers,mix tapes etc.
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Let's Just be honest. There will never be another Club like Fire & Ice in the 80's. The Music, The crowd. .25 cent drink night on thursday. The seedy neighborhood in Downtown. DJ Mont spinning from 242 to Alien Sex Fiend. Where else could you get smashed for 5 BUCKS with a date.
Then walk to Denny's for Nachos Supreme. The Kitchen Rocked as well. DJ Mont moved there. Anybody remember RAW BJ The door guy at the Kitchen. I recently hit the Big "40" Makes you think about your life. It might sound weird but some of my Best memories were at F & I and the Kitchen club. South Beach was bitchin. Not so Hyped, It was sleazy cool. I had a Posse of GUYS who I hung out with. Names Like ZOLT,ALEX PORTILLIA,MICKEY PORTILLIA,KENNY NIX,DJ MONT. The Original Kitchen Club DJ. I Miss those Days. Also NYDIA if your out there and read this. Know that I always cared about you. If anybody Remembers ME or those DAYS of yorn. Lets TALK.
Sean Lee Harner N2films@aol.com
(Kitchen Club) From 88-91
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Hello Sean (and others). I am quite touched by what you have written. I am alive and well living in europe in a small country called Denmark. It is a great feeling to look back and reflect on the thought that I had something positive to offer and add to so many lives during the 80's, particularly in southern Florida.
I actually began at a small venue in Fort Lauderdale in 1980 called "The New Wave Lounge" (what a creative name that was haha). Around 1983/84 I moved my style of spinning into a then gay discoteche called "Fire and Ice" and the rest they say, is history.
Later on, I opened the venue known as The Kitchen Club, and well, we all know the influence that club had on the club scene as well. What made it so special I believe was the diversity of the cutting edge music and the technical manner it was all mixed together.Concerts such as that by Killing Joke will never be forgotten. What many would never know about me as a DJ is this:
1. In the more than 10 years I made a living spinning music, I never once took any drug and rarely drank alcohol.(I honestly believe this was one reason I continued to be successful for so long, not to mention the health benefits by not getting into an addiction rut like many in the club business tend to do). My drugs were my music and watching the crowd respond.
2. I once tried to "commit suicide" when a guy came in my booth at The Kitchen to threaten me for not playing Madonna. Being beyond depressed that day anyway, I grabbed his gun and said - "oh yeah motherfucker - well let me do it for you because it's not going to happen!" The gun was empty (obviously) and it was something neither of us will ever forget(!).
3. I spent well over a hundred bucks EVERY WEEK on records ( a lot of records back then) and 90% of the groups were unknown - it was up to me to "break" new music to the public long before airplay.
4. The Kitchen was at one point voted top 3 clubs in the U.S. by USA Today (I think that was the paper)
5. My favourite group of all time was and IS still Killing Joke. I am engaged to a danish woman who is like-minded and we hope to have Jaz Coleman marry us!
6. One day in 1989, I woke up, decided I was tired of sleeping in the day and working at night - so I packed my bags and moved to Europe to get away from it all and start over. Today I am a successful marketing director for a major sports company as well as a professional goalie trainer in ice hockey. Now go figure that!
For those who want to reflect on the good times during the "golden years " of Miami clubbing, I have posted a lot of stuff from that time and the club... look for www.myspace.com/geordiewalkerfan
Thanks again to all - you brought a tear (or two) to my eyes....
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Cheers to everyone. Especially you Mont. Did not know you that well , but everytime I took a record to the dj booth , you played it. The first record I shared with you was Snake Dance by the March Violets. . I was there the opening night in early '84 and , and also the last night in 1989. The first song ever played at F& I was Church of the Poison Mind by Culture Club.If recall correctly Rusty was the first Dj. My friend Juan Carlos V. did lights for Rusty. I still own about 100 pieces of vinyl that were played at F& I.The best years were 84-86. ARTIFACTS on tuesday nights were the first of its kind in Miami.However, there was only one other club in Miami, which had more intensity than F.& I, and that was the unforgetable SALVATIONS.
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Ahh Yeah.Went there for the chicks,then the music.Ovo was big prewausau ballroom,never hit Ovo.Did do Industry in '90 few times good place,Institute too megabar for my taste,1235 aka Decos also big then.Didn't go F&I till late '86,post NO show party,it seemed very punk they had local MTV commercials late '84-early'85 more of a punk venue early,refined '87-'88.It was the best place to meet ladies,I lived in Ft.L. then,my friend lived 4 blocks away Miami Av.Hit 2 places 1 shot.By '89 it was just underage drunks fighting.Didn't go there much after late '88.Heres the reason for my post I'm kind of ltrying to talk to someone special I met there "Ruthie" had a sister,said went to Hialeah high,please hit Kitchen site,chat ,email at my yahoo ema please!
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While part of this is off topic ie:pickup lines of the late'80's,one I heard guys using alot on the girls at clubs everywhere then was "I can get you on Miami Vice".I never used it.Ok back on topic, there was also a club in So. Miami Bakery centre,Don't remember the name it was a one day a week club,they had Marilyn Manson posters all over when he was a local act.Anyone remember that place?I only went there once.Then Salvation I thought it was at club nu or the place near it 23rd.st. never went.Or the Garage?I think that was more thrash met.,Never went.Did see former F&I folks at Ind.,Inst.,Kit.,.Personally wasn't into the kitchen.Really what made F&I was the people,and the times.The SOBE clubs seem too euro to me lived there and didn't like the euro club scene.During that time there was also roving warehouse clubs,then what really killed it was house music.
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i used to live up the street,and had many scandalous nites there.
do u rmbr josephs; aka boomerang yrs ltr. I just joined tribe and am looking for the same kinds of places.
Back in the day, I was known as D-va Jacqui. I was a club crawling,vintage clothes wearing,drug and booze injesting party girl.
I had a tribe of about 30 boys I used to run with all over the u.s., I'm probably a lot older than u, but young at heart and always looking for a new fun person.
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Hmm...I'd guess that you likely went to F&I when it opened.I guess 1984,went out of biz sometime '89 I'd suppose.It was very artsy ,punk early,My friend used to stop there after work for a drink,surprised me they were ever open in the day time.They had a run, summer '87 to summer '88,no competition,1235 changed Friday format,Kitchen didn't open till '88.Alot of chix were into vintage clothes,actually didn't seem too druggy a bar.Ft.L had a prog/alt. night , the bar at Days inn on tues,Then Squeeze was in that period,and outlasted F&I,never went.Did anyone goto New Order Dec.'86 or April,'89?,the unoffical after party'86 was at FI,in '89 Club NU.
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My sis used to live down the street from the Kitchen when it was on 21st street. It was cool because I could just show up there and there was always a bunch of people I knew. Many were the same ones I hung out with at F&I.
What I find funny is that throught the years I have made quite a few other friend who would also hang out at Fire and Ice every weekend and yet we never met at that time.
Hmmm...what was boomerangs after? Sounds familiar but I don't remember. Late 80's early 90's I used to go clubbing Thur, Fri, Sat and Sun LOL, I don't even remember the names of half the places I went to. Let's see: 1235 (saw a lot of cool shows there), the Cameo, when it used to have punk rock shows, Squeeze, The Industry... -
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In '93 i lived by red rm.,5th st.To contrast FI '88, only about 28% patrons there are chix,v. FI +50% 5 yrs. B4.Club nu had nitzer ebb '88.I missed PM & church 9/88 Decos[pissed].Actually Ind.,Inst.,kit. all competed at the same time.I would have went to Ind. more than a few x's, car was stolen there, took as omen. Inst. was actually pretty cheap cover,& if you tipped,they'd give free drinks.Then somewhat prerave and rave,some say its goth now.
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Kind of get it that a few of you are looking for a place in the here and now.Since the last time I went out .The Church sometime between late '98-early'00,where they had one of the F&I DJs.I really didn't give that place a chance,only went once like for 10 min.There was more of a youthful enthusiasm then,at least for me.But I ain't dead yet.So I've kind of considered the morgue So. Mia. if it still exists,or Vamp Hwd.,Maybe the kitchen pretty close to where F&I was,but I really don't like Dade Co.,or the Culture Rm. Ft.L any suggestions or places I missed?Now everything has a label like Goth,Rave,house.Whereas F&I got it first as Punk,then New wave, Alt.,progressive,synpop, pregoth etc..THNX. lol
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I go to Vamp sometimes, it's not bad.
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Vamp is a 5-10 min. drive for me.I meant I'm considering Culture rm. Ft.L. or that place on Clematis WPB Respectable st.cafe,even though that would be a long drive.F&I wasn't a pickup bar per se,the ladies I met there were really really nice people,just kind of into playing games.
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I agree with you, I just want a place to hang out, dance a little and maybe meet some nice people. I really haven't felt like Vamp was a pickup bar, even tho sometimes I do see what my firend and I call "sharks" . Those guys that just circle the bar looking to hook up.
I only go to Culture Room when there's a show I want to see so I have no idea what it's like on a regular night. To be honest I had not even thought about them having a "regular" night until I read your post. -
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i did the night club scene in new york for decades, but once i stopped drinking
and getting high ,they lost there magic,i I still like live music ,but there
not a hard core jazz thing here ,,maybe im old and boring, i can have fun with a good book and john coltrane ,or radio head on sterio, tivo and the internet. -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Yeh, I don't drink or get high either, but sometimes I just want to be out of the house, you know?
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Actually going to F&I was a fluke.I was more or less out of the club scene,living in Ft.L which was supposed to be the spot for singles.Been there, done that attitude. The clubs there were boring at best.Then my friend got me free tickets to New Order 12/86 .I was only vaguely familiar w/ Blue Monday which till this day is still the best selling dance track,but I liked it,still debated if I'd rather stay home and watch Love Boat reruns.Then they had a unofficial after concert party at F&I.I was truly blown away.When RR died this summer that "tear down the wall " speach summer '87 flashed me back like it was last week.At the time it seemed a flakey political statement,later very profound.And thats how I remember F&I profound,even though a few flakey moments.
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I do! I loved it. I lived in Miami in summer of 1985, and went there a few times. I have a pink Fire and Ice t-shirt with white raised letters, that was so cool. It was an unusual color pink, that people thought was neat. Club was like being in a Miami Vice Episode. Bright place.. Attractive people. Industrial atmosphere. New Wave and Punk music. Nothing like that exists anymore. I also liked Confettis in Ft. Lauderdale and Penrods.
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Oh My God, I used to live at Banyan Bay, right up the street, remember college night? When drinks were like 50 cents if you were a student. I was married with a husband back then and we would go pretty regularly and get hammered and I almost always caused a debaucherous scene. The music was great, if you were into British or progressive,new wave or punk. Wish somewhere other than that place in South Miami thats a gay bar during the week. I want a few more options than that, hey, I'm a cool oldster now, still hot, hip and happenin! What's a gal to do, and where can she go to meet male oldsters?
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I know, it fells like I only get to go dancing when I go to NYC on vacation.
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i went to disney on ice.
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OMG thread continues!This years WMC did hit "Danse society" at old club Beirut,haven't been to that parking lot since b4 Andrew 1992 my last time at the old Kitchen,DS moved to 178&Bisc. Blvd. seems a good place to take a date.I likely went to F&I 100x's,Morgue about 40x's.Never got hit on too much of a degree at F&I,at the Morgue the females are more aggresive,guess its the times.I have to admit i was flattered. After Wilma's curfew in 0ct. did hit the Morgue and can say I haven't had such a good time since F&I,I really did feel 20ish again. Did see SOM in FT.L little while ago,will goto Ministry Ft'L hopefully.And finally saw Bauhaus late nov.05
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Fire & Ice is where my mate and I first met, in 1984. We want to rent the space for our wedding, someday. LOL
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Hmmm,1984 had to be the year it opened.They did run local MTV commercials for F&I around 1984,kind of more punk rock than when the first time I went 12/86.The only F&I picture I could find on the net was the Nitzer Ebb release That total age they say '88 but that album was released in '87.By the time I was going there on a regular basis '87-'88 it went more industrial,progressive.Now the place sells household items of sometype,went to the new Kitchen last October [soho] looked at the old place,kind of brought a tear to my eye.
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what about now?
12/1880's kitchen and fire and ice were before me. i did like going to kitchen in south miami, and loved vamp at sonar for a while, in hollywood. the last time i went out to what i thought was vamp i found 'danse society' instead--at a bar/billiards place in aventura. the crowed was mixed and there were alot of kiddies around, it was kind of lame. i miss being able to go out and hear good music and have a great time. is the morgue still around, and if so is it any good? although i'm in north broward, i'd drive just about ANYWHERE to break up the boredom.
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I remember Fire and Ice
02/03I LOVED Fire & Ice way back when...
It really was a unique place to be...looking back it makes me smile...everyone who went thought they themselves were unique in their "progressive" outfits. Only to realize 20 years later...we all looked pretty silly! But still! How fun it was.
There was a guy (Tom Natiello) who used to go from time to time...very attractive...had a huge tattoo of a rat on the side of his torso...and shaved head. I was told..he died..does any one remember tom? Is this true?
